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  Come Up With Your Own Over-The-Top Sensational "Six Screens" Post

  by OnTheWayOut in

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  after reading kool-aid man's title for his thread about "total pandemonium" breaking out on six screens over johnnie, and having a hard time believing he has the gall to use such an outcome to actually advertise why we should go to six screens and listen if we missed it, i figured that we could do better than kool-aid man and post some totally sensational ways to advertise his website and phone conferences.. stuff like this (only better and funny):.

  johnnie the bethelite is actually a governing body member's son.. .

  rick fearon hosts six screens this saturday and admits to being p.t.

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  Deputy Dog

  Hi Isaac

  I remember meeting Rick before "Six Screens" with his friend Manny.
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  On Human Evolution

  by TD in

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  it's a subject that comes up fairly often here (understandably) and very strong opinions are expressed.

  much of the discussion seems to be counterproductive.. i'd like to propose a different approach.

  we all know what each other's conclusions are (or at least we should by now).

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  bohm

  I've been giving your question some thought. Here is a link that shows how complex the issue is.

  http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/species/#DeaEss

  While I would define myself as a type of "essentialist", and this article oversimplifies my position a little, it does show how difficult this issue is.

  It really gets to the heart of this thread.
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  On Human Evolution

  by TD in

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  it's a subject that comes up fairly often here (understandably) and very strong opinions are expressed.

  much of the discussion seems to be counterproductive.. i'd like to propose a different approach.

  we all know what each other's conclusions are (or at least we should by now).

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  bohm

  i wonder how you believe the fuzzy borders between species affect evolution?

  I guess I'm missing the point to your question. Sorry
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  On Human Evolution

  by TD in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  it's a subject that comes up fairly often here (understandably) and very strong opinions are expressed.

  much of the discussion seems to be counterproductive.. i'd like to propose a different approach.

  we all know what each other's conclusions are (or at least we should by now).

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  TD

  You are right, it's interesting. It also begs the question, what's the difference between race and species? That was a hot topic back in Darwins day. That's the problem with those "fuzy" lines.
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  On Human Evolution

  by TD in

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  2. friends

  it's a subject that comes up fairly often here (understandably) and very strong opinions are expressed.

  much of the discussion seems to be counterproductive.. i'd like to propose a different approach.

  we all know what each other's conclusions are (or at least we should by now).

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  TD

  Personally, I wouldn't consider a creature with cognitive abilities on par, or maybe just slightly above a chimpanzee to be human regardless of whether it could hybridize with modern man or not.

  So do you consider those (humans) with abnormally high cognitive abilities to be another species?
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  On Human Evolution

  by TD in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  it's a subject that comes up fairly often here (understandably) and very strong opinions are expressed.

  much of the discussion seems to be counterproductive.. i'd like to propose a different approach.

  we all know what each other's conclusions are (or at least we should by now).

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  Deputy Dog

  Also, the wolf has a bite strength of about 1500 lbs per squ. inch, the golden about half that. These traits all point to separate species, albeit closely related ones--hence the ability to mate and produce a hybrid.

  That's a bunch of bullit. You just proved you don't know what you're talking about. There is no reliable test as of yet, and very little research.

  I train dogs to bite. There are dogs with a much stronger bite than a wolf. Goldens are much smaller than wolves and have been bred for a soft mouth. I've been bitten by wolves and wolf highbreds (through a bite sleeve). Pitbulls and Rottweilers are right up there with them. In fact, some breeds like the Mastiff are to dangerous to alow to bite on bite training equipment. They are able to break bones. The real danger is not the bite it's the tare.
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  On Human Evolution

  by TD in

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  it's a subject that comes up fairly often here (understandably) and very strong opinions are expressed.

  much of the discussion seems to be counterproductive.. i'd like to propose a different approach.

  we all know what each other's conclusions are (or at least we should by now).

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  Deputy Dog

  That two species can interbreed doesn't mean they're actually a single species. For instance, golden retreivers can be mated with grey wolves. Same species? No,

  Without defining species there isn't much more to talk about.
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  On Human Evolution

  by TD in

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  2. friends

  it's a subject that comes up fairly often here (understandably) and very strong opinions are expressed.

  much of the discussion seems to be counterproductive.. i'd like to propose a different approach.

  we all know what each other's conclusions are (or at least we should by now).

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  Cadellin

  I think the recent explosion in gene sequencing technology, particularly with respect to ancient DNA, will seal the deal. Modern human genomes fall within a fairly limited range and it's now known that Neanderthals fall outside that range (making them a separate, though related species), as do the most recent discovery, the Denisovians.

  If interbreeding could happen (which seems to be the case), that would seem to me to be the best arguement for variation within a species, not evolution into a new one.

  What's interesting is that interbreeding happened way long ago, which means that researchers theorize that we're carrying around something like 3-4% Neanderthal DNA and a whopping 5% Denisovian. Not all of us, though. These species arose after leaving Africa, so it would be expected that indigenous African peoples like the !Kung would not share Neanderthal or Denis. DNA. And they don't.

  Interbreeding would point to these all being of one species not three.
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  On Human Evolution

  by TD in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  it's a subject that comes up fairly often here (understandably) and very strong opinions are expressed.

  much of the discussion seems to be counterproductive.. i'd like to propose a different approach.

  we all know what each other's conclusions are (or at least we should by now).

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  TD

  I'm certainly not an expert, but, I'm sure we would agree on much, if we're only speaking in general terms about modern humans and modern apes.

  Similarly, we can't postulate the existence of a phenomenon in humans that has never, ever been observed. Humans in all their shapes and sizes do not have these pongid characteristics and there are no known diseases that can cause them.

  I know its only one example and not quite the same, but, look at the controversy with "Homo floresiensis". Is it variation within a species or not?

  With anything short of a romantic encounter, I don't know how you could know for sure.
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  Mr. Falcon Asks......What's so bad about boxing?

  by Mr. Falcon in

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  i love boxing.

  it kicks arse all over the place.

  although it has lost some of it's prior glory and has waaaay too many classes that are televised and billed as "main events", it's still better than mma (sorry to any mma fans; i actually don't mind ufc, i'm just saying that i prefer traditional boxing).. anywho, what is the deal with jws hating on boxing?

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  Mr. Falcon

  "What's so bad about boxing?" Don King! He killed the sport.

  I'm a huge MMA fan now. It's far more exciting.